Why I have sympathy for Arsenal…it could have been us!

Date: 15th October 2011 at 10:41 am
Written by Red-Flag-Flying-High

It would be so easy to laugh at Arsenal right now. In fact, I have, in the not so distance past. Financial restrictions, injuries at the most inconvenient times and your star player wanting to leave. The truth is, it could so easily be us in Arsenal’s place right now.

A couple of important things happened in 2005.

Arsenal won their last trophy and The Glazers took full control of our club, placing a massive debt on to us. Then, in 2006, Arsenal moved from Highbury to The Emirates Stadium, which also put Financial strain on them. At the time, Manchester United and Arsenal were the two teams in the league who were battling it out for the title and the trophies, year in, year out. Chelsea had just started to find their feet after the injection of Abramovich’s cash and won the league in 2005. The difference in Manchester United’s and Arsenal’s fortune since 2005 has been like night and day. While Arsenal have not won anything, Manchester United have won 4 Premier League trophies, 3 Carling Cup trophies and 1 Champions League trophy. Arsenal have not spent much since their last trophy win (if Manchester United had spent as little, I am sure we would be struggling too) They have instead decided to give their young players a chance to shine. This is an ideology shared by both Manchester United and Arsenal.

Whether the lack of spending is down to Arsene Wenger or the Arsenal board, you have to say, it is a problem. The Glazers have taken a lot of stick since they took control of our club. Personal abuse, TV documentaries and fan protests about how they run the club, have been common place over the past couple of years. However, the way they run the club since, is the difference between us and Arsenal. Well, that, and of course, the absolute brilliance of Sir Alex Ferguson . Despite the huge debt we have, the Glazers have made sure that we have kept competitive, not only in the Premiership, but also in Europe. They have made a lot of money available to buy some of the best young players in the world. They allowed Ferguson to spend £30 million on Berbatov, while we still had Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez at the club. They have even allowed Ferguson to take risks in the transfer market, with the signing of Bebe being the biggest example of this.

While Arsenal still boast to have the best young team in the Premiership, they have slipped behind on this front too. They have two of the best young mid-fielders in the world in Jack Wilshere and Arron Ramsay, but beyond that, and the possible emergence of Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Wojciech Szczesny, you have to say that Manchester United have the better young players. Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Jonny Evans, Fabio Da Silva, Anderson, Nani, Ashley Young, Danny Wellbeck and Chicharito would each walk in to the Arsenal first team, with David De Gea and Tom Cleverley probably on a par with Arsenal’s first team. The future off the pitch also looks great for Manchester United. With the sale of a relatively small percentage of the club, it looks as though the huge debt on our club, may be cleared.

This would probably mean even greater power in the transfer market for years to come. It would also mean that the Glazers would own the majority of a club, and in the end, not paid any money. In fact, they may have even made a profit. While Arsenal have fallen behind over the past few years, Chelsea, and now Manchester City, have emerged as our main rivals. While Manchester United and Arsenal both used the money gained by their success to get by, Chelsea and Manchester City are both bankrolled by their rich owners. That is why I have a little soft spot for Arsenal. If you get past the dislike for some of their players, they are a club a bit like Manchester United. Giving youth a chance and using success as a springboard for even more success is the way football should be done.

As a Manchester United fan, I miss fighting for the title with Arsenal. I would much rather have them as our main title rivals, than Chelsea or Manchester City. I find their recent demise really sad, and, although I don’t like to admit it, I really hope they turn things round.

Article courtesy of Stockport Red from the excellent Red Flag Flying High


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11 Comments

  • dvd says:
    Date: October 15th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    truly agree with you

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    says: truly agree with you
    dvd
  • Gunner4lyf says:
    Date: October 15th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    I felt part of the problem for Arsenal was the exodus of big players in span of a few years. Around about 2007 there were all but 1 of the members left from the 2004 winning squad. In that respect I think Sir Alex was sensible in that respect, in holding onto people like Scholes and Giggs. Someone who had been there and done that and someone who could guide the youngsters. Arsene on the other hand was a little hasty in getting rid of all his senior members.

    Credit to ManU and Sir Alex for keeping that winning mentality in tact for years on in. We on the other hand always seemed to have faded away. Just like you, I hope things change and truth be told, its not all doom and gloom.

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    says: I felt part of the problem for Arsenal was the exodus of big players in span of a few years. Around about 2007 there were all but 1 of the members left from the 2004 winning squad. In that respect I think Sir Alex was sensible in that respect, in holding onto people like Scholes and Giggs. Someone who had been there and done that and someone who could guide the youngsters. Arsene on the other hand was a little hasty in getting rid of all his senior members. Credit to ManU and Sir Alex for keeping that winning mentality in tact for years on in. We on the other hand always seemed to have faded away. Just like you, I hope things change and truth be told, its not all doom and gloom.
    Gunner4lyf
  • bobbyp says:
    Date: October 15th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    As an Arsenal fan I appreciate your sentiment. I am the same, as in, I admire Man Utd because they have done things in the right way and been successful because of good manager and and sound financial principles rather than a sugar daddy who buys all the latest flavours of the month just because they can.

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    says: As an Arsenal fan I appreciate your sentiment. I am the same, as in, I admire Man Utd because they have done things in the right way and been successful because of good manager and and sound financial principles rather than a sugar daddy who buys all the latest flavours of the month just because they can.
    bobbyp
  • Phil Phoenix says:
    Date: October 15th, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    Do Man Utd really have better young players than Arsenal? A better side and squad no doubt, but I think a bit too much has been made of this latest Utd crop – Wilshere and Ramsey deliver more consistently now than Jones, Anderson and Cleverley.

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    says: Do Man Utd really have better young players than Arsenal? A better side and squad no doubt, but I think a bit too much has been made of this latest Utd crop - Wilshere and Ramsey deliver more consistently now than Jones, Anderson and Cleverley.
    Phil Phoenix
  • Steve of Chiang Mai says:
    Date: October 15th, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    I would say Song and Szczesny compete more than favourably with their Man U counterparts

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    says: I would say Song and Szczesny compete more than favourably with their Man U counterparts
    Steve of Chiang Mai
  • Arsenal Future Manager says:
    Date: October 15th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    @Red-Flag-Flying-High
    WHOEVER YOU ARE I LOVE YOU lOOL,
    Nice article why cant other Man U fans just understand that we have some problems and give us a break, Wonderful stuff.

    The only part I could argue is the young players;
    Szczęsny – De Gea
    Jenkinson – Rafeal
    Bartley – Smaliing
    Miquel – Jones
    Gibbs – Fabio
    Song/Wilshere/Ramsey – Cleverly/Anderson
    Walcott/Chamberlain – Nani
    Gervinho/Miyaichi – Young
    RvP – Rooney

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    arsenal fun Reply:

    first thing yeah great article..second i do believe arsenal has just as many young promising players i dont agree some of the players you have put on there. RvP is WAY to hold for young player. and miguel and bartley cmon they havent played enough to impress. I’d argue for Djourou (24) and Verminator (who is only 25) and theres coquelin who has really impressed me recently

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    says: @Red-Flag-Flying-High WHOEVER YOU ARE I LOVE YOU lOOL, Nice article why cant other Man U fans just understand that we have some problems and give us a break, Wonderful stuff. The only part I could argue is the young players; Szczęsny - De Gea Jenkinson - Rafeal Bartley - Smaliing Miquel - Jones Gibbs - Fabio Song/Wilshere/Ramsey - Cleverly/Anderson Walcott/Chamberlain - Nani Gervinho/Miyaichi - Young RvP - Rooney
    Arsenal Future Manager
  • EPLGuru says:
    Date: October 16th, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    I do agree with this article. arsenal and man u are 1000 time better a team than Man city or Chelsea cuz these clubs are managed and run how football clubs supposed to be run. There is no pride in getting financial injections to win trophys because in a way that’s cheating. Ppl who played football manager or championship manger would kno what im talking about…lol

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    says: I do agree with this article. arsenal and man u are 1000 time better a team than Man city or Chelsea cuz these clubs are managed and run how football clubs supposed to be run. There is no pride in getting financial injections to win trophys because in a way that's cheating. Ppl who played football manager or championship manger would kno what im talking about...lol
    EPLGuru
  • Shaun says:
    Date: October 16th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    This was a touchy article for me and after this I have much more respect for man u I hope my team can turn it around

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    says: This was a touchy article for me and after this I have much more respect for man u I hope my team can turn it around
    Shaun
  • Shaun says:
    Date: October 17th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    Really johnny evans and anderson are two awful players and considering how much was paid for anderson i would rather have frimpong. Gervinho deserves a mention he is only 24. Man utd are a great team because of there great defence, rooney and they just seem to have all the luck

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    says: Really johnny evans and anderson are two awful players and considering how much was paid for anderson i would rather have frimpong. Gervinho deserves a mention he is only 24. Man utd are a great team because of there great defence, rooney and they just seem to have all the luck
    Shaun
  • wellingooner says:
    Date: January 13th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    I dont consider most of those ‘young’ man utd players to be young. These days in football, young is under-21. Nani is 25, Young is 26, Evans is 24 and Anderson and Chicharito are 23… If you’re gonna include players of that age as part of your youth, then you might aswell include Walcott, Gervinho, Vermaelen, Koscielny and Song into Arsenal’s “youth”…
    And Fabio would not “walk” into the arsenal team. There’s barely a single player in the prem who would get the nod over Sagna. Same goes for Evans and Smalling. Those guys would only get into the arsenal defence this season, any other year when we havent had a stupid amount of injuries, they’d have no chance. Other than that, I agree with you. I used to hate Utd and Spurs more than anyone. Now I think i’d much prefer them (proper teams) to win the prem over city and chelsea

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    says: I dont consider most of those 'young' man utd players to be young. These days in football, young is under-21. Nani is 25, Young is 26, Evans is 24 and Anderson and Chicharito are 23... If you're gonna include players of that age as part of your youth, then you might aswell include Walcott, Gervinho, Vermaelen, Koscielny and Song into Arsenal's "youth"... And Fabio would not "walk" into the arsenal team. There's barely a single player in the prem who would get the nod over Sagna. Same goes for Evans and Smalling. Those guys would only get into the arsenal defence this season, any other year when we havent had a stupid amount of injuries, they'd have no chance. Other than that, I agree with you. I used to hate Utd and Spurs more than anyone. Now I think i'd much prefer them (proper teams) to win the prem over city and chelsea
    wellingooner

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