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	<title>Comments on: Do fans need to suffer to appreciate football?</title>
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		<title>By: Jim ORourke</title>
		<link>http://www.footballfancast.com/premiership/do-fans-need-to-suffer-to-appreciate-football/comment-page-1#comment-258691</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim ORourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 17:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cost of attending matches is far too expensive. More people would grow to love the beautiful game if it wasn&#039;t totally dominated by wealth and greed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cost of attending matches is far too expensive. More people would grow to love the beautiful game if it wasn&#8217;t totally dominated by wealth and greed.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://www.footballfancast.com/premiership/do-fans-need-to-suffer-to-appreciate-football/comment-page-1#comment-258418</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would just like to say that Spurs suffering makes me very happy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to say that Spurs suffering makes me very happy!</p>
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		<title>By: 2_goal_tino</title>
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		<dc:creator>2_goal_tino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 20:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are talking about despair, but I think it is a very different case in the other emotional extreme, happiness. I think teams who support worse teams get more joy from winning an individual game than successful teams. For many beating the likes of Man U or City is akin to winning a trophy - i.e something the fans reminisce about for years. The reason for this is because it is contrary to the norm. The best teams expect to win, others don&#039;t. It is for this very reason that I would say there is in fact an argument that it hurts more for the fans of successful teams to lose- simply because they didn&#039;t see it coming. 

In footballing terms, I think sadness is triggered by two things: surprise, as above, but also a loss of hope. While successful teams may suffer with the former, fans from &#039;lesser&#039; teams are more familiar with the notion of a loss of hope. A feeling which better teams only sometimes have e.g why your friend felt as he did in the champions league final.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are talking about despair, but I think it is a very different case in the other emotional extreme, happiness. I think teams who support worse teams get more joy from winning an individual game than successful teams. For many beating the likes of Man U or City is akin to winning a trophy &#8211; i.e something the fans reminisce about for years. The reason for this is because it is contrary to the norm. The best teams expect to win, others don&#8217;t. It is for this very reason that I would say there is in fact an argument that it hurts more for the fans of successful teams to lose- simply because they didn&#8217;t see it coming. </p>
<p>In footballing terms, I think sadness is triggered by two things: surprise, as above, but also a loss of hope. While successful teams may suffer with the former, fans from &#8216;lesser&#8217; teams are more familiar with the notion of a loss of hope. A feeling which better teams only sometimes have e.g why your friend felt as he did in the champions league final.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DK about that. For a very long time Man Utd supporters have not felt anguish at an inept manager like Blackburn, Spurs, and Villa supporters did last season. I don&#039;t think relegation and Champions League final can even be compared. Relegation is a season-long feeling that one obviously sees coming long before it actually happens.  Man Utd losing would be more painful imo due to its immediacy.  Although I still think your friend is a winy prick for crying; like he hasn&#039;t seen Man Utd win enough trophies already.  As a Spurs fan I am comfortable with the club finishing fifth knowing that at least their still in the top flight.  I long for Champions League but also know that I am very fortunate to follow a currently successful side.  It did really hurt when Chelsea won the final last season and I was fucking pissed following the Real Madrid match two seasons ago.  But I didn&#039;t cry, goddammit. The beauty of football is that one can always be comfortable knowing there&#039;s always another season (unless you&#039;re a Portsmouth supporter).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DK about that. For a very long time Man Utd supporters have not felt anguish at an inept manager like Blackburn, Spurs, and Villa supporters did last season. I don&#8217;t think relegation and Champions League final can even be compared. Relegation is a season-long feeling that one obviously sees coming long before it actually happens.  Man Utd losing would be more painful imo due to its immediacy.  Although I still think your friend is a winy prick for crying; like he hasn&#8217;t seen Man Utd win enough trophies already.  As a Spurs fan I am comfortable with the club finishing fifth knowing that at least their still in the top flight.  I long for Champions League but also know that I am very fortunate to follow a currently successful side.  It did really hurt when Chelsea won the final last season and I was fucking pissed following the Real Madrid match two seasons ago.  But I didn&#8217;t cry, goddammit. The beauty of football is that one can always be comfortable knowing there&#8217;s always another season (unless you&#8217;re a Portsmouth supporter).</p>
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